Legislature(1995 - 1996)

01/30/1995 03:03 PM House L&C

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 HL&C - 01/30/95                                                               
 Number 435                                                                    
                                                                               
 HB 115 - DAMAGES AND ATTORNEY FEES FOR UNPAID WAGES                         
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KOTT then introduced that HB 115 was the next order of               
 business.  He then invited Representative Mulder to the table.                
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KOTT read the sponsor statement for HB 115.  He stated the           
 following:  "The Alaska Wage and Hour Act (AWHA) requires the                 
 payment of minimum wage and overtime compensation under defined               
 conditions and contains procedures for the enforcement of these               
 requirements.  The principal statute addressing remedies is AS                
 23.10.110(a), which provides that employers who violate AWHA are              
 liable to their employees for the amount of unpaid compensation as            
 well as an equal amount of `liquidated damages.'                              
                                                                               
 "Until recently, aggrieved employees seeking to enforce their                 
 rights to overtime compensation and minimum wage rates had several            
 avenues to obtain redress.  They could settle the matter directly             
 with their employers.  They could file a complaint with the                   
 Department of Labor and obtain its assistance in effecting a                  
 resolution.  In addition, employees could sue their employers in              
 Superior Court.                                                               
                                                                               
 "Employees who elected to settle their claims directly with their             
 employers had the option of waiving all or part of the liquidated             
 damages.  Similarly, the Department of Labor could negotiate a                
 settlement containing terms waiving all or part of the liquidated             
 damages.  This flexibility tended to encourage employers to settle            
 prior to the filing of a lawsuit because if their cases progressed            
 to court full liquidated damages were mandated.                               
                                                                               
 "All of this was changed, though, as a result of a decision                   
 rendered by the Alaska Supreme Court in McKeown v. Kinney Shoe                
 Company, 820 P.2d 1068 (Alaska 1991), which modified the law in an            
 extremely important respect.  Full liquidated damages are now                 
 required in all settlements, even when the employer acted                     
 reasonably and in good faith.  Furthermore, this is the case when             
 a settlement is negotiated by the Department of Labor.                        
                                                                               
 "HB 115 acts to cure certain deficiencies in the law as it now                
 stands.  First, it grants the court, in actions filed pursuant to             
 AWAH, discretion to award less than full liquidated damages.  It              
 also may altogether decline to award liquidated damages.  This                
 discretion may be exercised if, but only if, the employer proves              
 both that it acted in good faith and with reasonable grounds.  The          
 employer has the burden of proof with respect to these elements               
 before the court can exercise its discretion.  However, even                  
 assuming both elements are proved, the court retains discretion as            
 to whether or not liquidated damages are awarded.                             
                                                                               
 "Second, it permits the Department of Labor to negotiate                      
 settlements omitting all or part of the liquidated damages.  If               
 employee claimants agree to the terms of such negotiated                      
 settlements, they waive their right to further assert their claims            
 for unpaid wages and liquidated damages.                                      
                                                                               
 "Third, employees may directly settle with their employers,                   
 provided that certain procedural safeguards are satisfied.  Such              
 safeguards are specifically tailored to apprise employees of their            
 rights and the consequences of their actions.  If all procedural              
 safeguards are satisfied, the resulting settlements constitute a              
 waiver of claims for unpaid compensation and liquidated damages.              
                                                                               
 "Fourth, HB 115 changes existing law with respect to the award of             
 attorney fees and costs.  As the law now stands, reasonable                   
 attorney fees and costs are awarded to prevailing plaintiffs.               
 Defendants, when they prevail, are not entitled to costs and                  
 attorney fees.  Obviously, this creates a climate whereby those               
 with extremely weak and bogus claims have no financial                        
 disincentives to bringing lawsuits.  HB 115 takes a different                 
 approach.  It awards attorney fees and costs to whichever party               
 prevails.  Moreover, instead of requiring the payment of                      
 "reasonable" attorney fees, this bill specifies that such fees are            
 to be determined according to court rule, thus bringing these types           
 of cases in line with the treatment accorded other civil actions.             
                                                                               
 "It respectfully is submitted that HB 115 constitutes a significant           
 improvement on existing law.  As recognized by the Alaska Supreme             
 Court in Kenney, `liquidated damages' in the context of wage and            
 hour cases are in reality a type of punitive damages.  That being             
 the case, it makes very little sense to punish those who act                  
 reasonably and in good faith the same as those who callously and              
 purposefully violate the law.  In that regard, it may be noted that           
 the corresponding federal statute grants discretion to federal                
 courts to award no liquidated damages, or partial liquidated                  
 damages, when employers establish that they acted reasonably and in           
 good faith.  Thus, this bill acts to bring Alaska law into                    
 conformity with federal law.                                                  
                                                                               
 "It is also submitted that according the parties flexibility in               
 negotiating settlements, either directly or through the Department            
 of Labor, is desirable.  The preponderant majority of such cases              
 can be settled to the satisfaction of all parties before they enter           
 the judicial system, which would have the effect of relieving an              
 already overburdened court case load.  Finally, awarding attorney             
 fees to all prevailing parties, and not just to prevailing                    
 plaintiffs, will discourage the filing of bogus lawsuits, thus                
 reducing the drain on Alaska's judicial and economic resources.               
                                                                               
 "Your support is appreciated."                                                
                                                                               
 Number 617                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KOTT opened the testimony to the teleconference lines.               
                                                                               
 Number 621                                                                    
                                                                               
 ROBERT BLASCO, Attorney, Robertson, Monagle, and Eastaugh,                    
 testified, via teleconference, from Sitka.  He reaffirmed that the            
 summary read by the Chair was accurate.  He stated that he supports           
 HB 115 because it corrects and improves deficiencies in the law and           
 because of a general philosophy of fairness that applies to all of            
 our civil systems.  He stated that the double damage provision is             
 a punitive measure.                                                           
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-3, SIDE A                                                             
 Number 000                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BLASCO continued by saying that the change in procedure created           
 by this bill is not dramatic but from a fairness standpoint, the              
 change is very dramatic.  He stated that the second portion of the            
 bill is very necessary to eliminate the question of who is liable             
 for attorney fees.                                                            
                                                                               
 KEN LEGACKI testified, via teleconference, from Anchorage.  He                
 stated that HB 115 does not address the language set forth in the             
 state case of Webster vs. Bechtel, citation 621 Pacific 2nd 890.              
 Mr. Legacki stated  that the Webster case did an analysis of the              
 relationship between the Fair Labor Standards Act and The Alaska              
 Wage and Hour Act.  Mr. Legacki quoted the Webster case that states           
 on page 897, "The state statute is void to the extent that it                 
 actually conflicts with the valid federal statutes.  A conflict               
 will be found where compliance with both federal and state                    
 regulations is difficult in possibility or the state law stands               
 (Indecif)... "At page 900 which it states, we must include that the           
 Alaska Act can only be "void" to the extent that it actually                  
 conflicts with the valid federal statues.  Mr. Legacki stated that            
 this past Monday, January 30, 1995, the United States Supreme Court           
 reiterated the importance of the mandatory awarding of attorney               
 fees.  HB 115 that would adopt our ruling too, it is specifically             
 prohibited by the Fair Labor Standards Act.  Mr. Legacki cited a              
 case McEnnon v. Nashville Banner Publishing Co., and said the                 
 violation of that case was Section 29 USC 626 which stops remedial            
 provisions of the Fair Labor Standards Act regarding attorney fees.           
 On the other provision of this bill the court stresses the                    
 importance of adding full mandatory attorney fees to employees.               
 Mr. Legacki furthered that the private settlement provision of HB
 115 is prohibited by the FLSA, Brooklyn Savings Bank v. O'Neil the            
 U.S. Supreme Court stated that "private settlements are void as               
 against public policy", Mr. Legacki related that you cannot have              
 them under the Fair Labor Standards Act.  Another case that                   
 reiterated that position was Lynn's Food Stores Inc. v. the United            
 States, that citation 679 F.2d 1350 (Eleventhth Cir.) 1982.  It               
 again reiterates that private settlements are prohibited.  Mr.                
 Legacki felt HB 115 would not survive judicial scrutiny.  He                  
 further stated that it didn't address the reasons behind the Wage             
 and Hour Act., which is to protect employees from overreaching                
 employers.  He explained that the court has had to jump in because            
 the employee is economically dependent on the employer.  He                   
 detailed that if the employer tells the employee, take this                   
 settlement or you're out of a job, the employee has no choice.  Mr.           
 Legacki asked that this bill be re-thought, analyzed to see how it            
 helps the employee for which the policy of the act is mandated.               
                                                                               
 Number 160                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KOTT asked if there were any more questions.                         
                                                                               
 Number 165                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN PORTER asked Mr. Legacki to fax the citations            
 stated.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 180                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KOTT asked for testimony from Juneau.                                
                                                                               
 ED FLANAGAN, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Labor, gave his               
 initial concern with HB 115, regarding its inflexibility with                 
 settlements short of court.  Mr. Flanagan believes department's               
 supervision is important so employees don't get coerced into                  
 anything.  Mr. Flanagan offered to work with committee on that                
 portion of HB 115.  Mr. Flanagan stated that he had serious                   
 concerns dealing with the change in attorney fees from the                    
 plaintiff to the prevailing party.  He mentioned that there was a             
 more recent case than that cited by Mr. Legacki, interpreting the             
 FSLA, that says plaintiffs can recover damages from defendants.               
 Mr. Legacki stated that it doesn't say either and that this has               
 been ruled by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals in D.C., to be               
 invalid.  He further stated that this was an attempt to get damages           
 from the plaintiff.  The issue is often minimum wage, and they                
 often can't find an attorney to take the case if they're faced with           
 prospect of a long drawn out case with the employer that has many             
 more resources at their command.  This would eliminate a large                
 number of cases.  Mr. Flanagan also had a concern with the                    
 good-faith exception,  and feels it would have to be much more                
 stringent than what was in the bill.  If the exception is too                 
 loose, ignorance of the law being permitted as defense, basically             
 then no employer has an incentive to obey the law.  Mr. Flanagan              
 commented that all's he's going to pay in court is basically what             
 he should have paid in the first place.  That is why the punitive             
 damages are in there.  Also another concern of Mr. Flanagans was              
 Section 4, that states letter A section E, applies to agreements              
 entered into on or after the effective date of the act. Section B             
 F. 2310 110F applies to written agreement into on or after the                
 effective date.  Letter C, except as provided in A and B of this              
 section both constitutionally permitted, this act applies to                  
 actions commenced on or before the effective date of this act.  In            
 the sectional analysis, what concerned Mr. Flanagan was that under            
 section 4C, to the extent constitutionally permitted the rest of              
 the act applies to actions in which a final judgment has not been             
 entered on the date the act takes effect.  If this is to give                 
 retroactivity to any actions that have been undertaken to try and             
 recover wages, he feels that it would be blatantly unfair to the              
 workers involved.  Mr. Flanagan does not support this bill in the             
 present form but would work with the committee for changes.                   
                                                                               
 Number 266                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ELTON asked how long this hearing was to last.  Are            
 we carrying this hearing over?                                                
                                                                               
 Number 275                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KOTT stated there was another committee scheduled for 5:00           
 p.m., so they would continue questions with current witness, then             
 adjourn and hold the bill until Wednesday, at which point they                
 could bring the bill back.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 284                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER asked if HB 115 wouldn't be unfair to future            
 employees, then why is it unfair to present employees?                        
                                                                               
 MR. FLANAGAN replied that because the present employees already               
 have actions going, they've engaged attorneys, exposed themselves             
 to retaliation and it seems it would be unfair to change the rules            
 after something is in effective.  Mr. Flanagan also stated that he            
 had only seen this bill this morning.                                         
                                                                               
 Number 297                                                                    
 REPRESENTATIVE ELTON stated that he had made an assumption after              
 reading the sectional that maybe the provision in HB 115 changed              
 under Section 4, but the sectional may have been brought up from              
 last year and maybe they didn't change that provision in the                  
 sectional.  He further stated that this act would only apply to               
 actions that commence on or after the effective date and there                
 would not be any retroactivity.                                               
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KOTT stated that was also his understanding.                         
                                                                               
 MR. FLANAGAN replied that he had last years bill, and that would              
 more accurately describe the last Section 4C of that bill, than the           
 current version.                                                              
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KOTT asked if there were further questions or comments?              
 Seeing none, we will hold this bill over to the next committee                
 meeting of Wednesday.                                                         

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